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Post by Lprdgecko on May 26, 2007 8:52:41 GMT -5
It kinda made me mad that they put the cheerleaders in the Sports section of the yearbook, but put the marching band in the Clubs and Extracurricular Activities section...
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Post by Sforzando77 on May 31, 2007 16:26:15 GMT -5
They did that to us too, however, our band page was still pretty nice... but on the list of clubs page, band was the very last club shown (other than OM). The only offensive thing, other than being last, was that band was just "Band", we weren't divided into jazz, concert, symphonic and varsity, and marching. And since Choir was divided into just about every category, I felt the band should have gotten some more than just "Band"
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Post by redkel on Aug 5, 2007 21:40:07 GMT -5
If Marching Band is not a sport, then why are Band Directors in the State of Ohio required to take a sports injury/medicine class and be certified in it? That's all I'm going to say about that.
It's physical...it's organized...it's competitive. That's a sport, folks.
Opinions expressed are my own...my 2 cents, no change given...your mileage may vary...batteries not included.
kel
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Post by lobodrummajor on Aug 9, 2007 11:36:21 GMT -5
Yes, Marching Band is a Letter Sport! We Compete, We wear Uniforms, We work HARD, We Run, We sweat, We taste Victory and Defeat, And We work together like any other team!!!
We have that on the back of our shirts i got my freshmen year. they are so cool, and oh so true!!!
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Post by bandoforlife on Aug 9, 2007 13:16:19 GMT -5
At my school, we get 1/3 of a PE credit for marching band. ;D
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Post by ba12itone on Aug 15, 2007 20:22:37 GMT -5
I think it should be considered a sport, definitely. Especially with this years show, we're doing 180... We do so much, and people not in it think it's so easy
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Post by Lprdgecko on Aug 15, 2007 21:13:20 GMT -5
^180?!? Wow, and i thought 160 was bad...
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Post by oboeman on Aug 15, 2007 22:14:26 GMT -5
yea, we r doing 160 and the stuff we are doing is tough. But our winter show was darn near 180...it was hard, but we rocked it. anyway, yeah, marching band is really physical, probably more than sports like golf, no offense to any golfers, but it probably is, and that's a sport.
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Post by flutebandgeek on Aug 20, 2007 21:44:32 GMT -5
I think it should be considered a sport, definitely. Especially with this years show, we're doing 180... We do so much, and people not in it think it's so easy To clarify: Our show is Moto Perpetuo by Key Poulan. The Santa Clara Vanguard did that show last year. By the way. I hate 6 to the 5 steps and 4 to the fives. Being under 5' tall sucks! As far as I know, the only person shorter than me this year in marching band is in pit. At least I'm not a tuba [no offense to all you tuba players!]
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Post by trumellotonium on Aug 20, 2007 22:21:21 GMT -5
I've been really surprised with how much respect I get from fellow athletes for being in marching band. I run track and play soccer, and in both, whenever I mention marching band, they're like "wow, dont' you guys practice for like 12 hours? You must have really strong arms from all those pushups and holding the horn all the time. Don't you run a bunch during the summer? (summer circuit)", etc. Granted, there are always the people who say "band is a waste of your time and it eats your life", only the first part of which is true. ;-p But mostly, I get a positive reaction for being in band. It's pretty cool.
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Post by ba12itone on Aug 20, 2007 23:02:22 GMT -5
^ Wow, thats's pretty cool. I wish we got a positive reaction... We don't get much over here But yeah, our show is in 3/4... it makes me really sad. There are some charts that I cannot physically do because I can't step large enough. It sucks haha. But it's still fun, I love this years show.
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Post by flutebandgeek on Aug 22, 2007 4:15:45 GMT -5
^ At least you can do that spin thing with the low brass. good thing Kellen won't let Ryan do it. I think know everyone would hate him if he DID do it. Everyone: Ryan: At least I'm okay! ;D Everyone: WE HATE YOU!!! *kills him* The show IS good, I just hate it being in 3/4. Oh man. At least with it being that time signature, they can't suddenly decide on us that they're going to have us run the show in cut time. It's already at a quick tempo!
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Post by oboeman on Aug 25, 2007 20:07:04 GMT -5
But yeah, our show is in 3/4... it makes me really sad. There are some charts that I cannot physically do because I can't step large enough. Yeah, almost all of our longest song is in either 5/4 or 5/2. We also have another song that is a mixed meter song that switches between 4/4, 3/4, and 3/8 (yay drag steps!). But yeah, on the topic of the actual thread: I just got back from my first band camp. I've never been so exhausted. We have worked so hard. And to add to that, one of our snares said that he has gone through a ton of football and soccer and track camps and a bunch of other sports camps and practices. So far he has found nothing that can prepare you for the intensity of band camp or anything that is more demanding than it. this is coming from a half band nerd, half athlete.
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Post by yvetterson on Aug 30, 2007 11:56:15 GMT -5
Marching band is a sport. The following pertain to our band and I would guess most others: 1. We practice jsut as much as all the other sports teams at our highschool. 2. Warm-ups: Marching 200 bpm in basics is harder work than any other sport. 3. The show. First song is 162 bpm. Second song is 84 bpm, but probably double timed in the feet. Third song is 158 bpm. Closer is 180 bpm. 11 minutes at such speeds is quite the workout. Add playing, technique and drill to it and it's more mentally challenging than anything else as well. 4. WE COMPETE. We go to competitions every saturday and play against OTHER BANDS. We go to STATE FINALS. This SCREAMS sport.
Luckily, most of our school sees it as one. We get letters for it AND it's the ONLY sport that fulfills a PE requirement, (probably because it's the only one thathas a class period during school for it as well...)
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Post by trumellotonium on Aug 30, 2007 12:21:28 GMT -5
Just for fun, I'm going to refute your arguments. I am involved in, aside from marching band: Soccer, track (Pole-vault, hurdles, triple jump), dance (classical ballet, ballet-technique, modern, ballroom, jazz, lyrical), winterguard, and frequent high-adventure trips like backpacking. For the record, I am totally in agreement that marching band IS a sport-- I'm just arguing because a) I'm bored, and b) so my fellow bandpeople can see the arguments of non-bandpeople.
[1: We practice just as much as all the other sports teams at our highschool.] This one's tricky for me to do from your point of view, as my season is different than yours, but I'm assuming you practice after school? Soccer, dance, track, football, poms, cheerleading all practice after school. In addition, many have two-a-day practices for a week leading up to the beginning of the season, which while not as long, are much more physically intense than band practices (especially preseason ones), which I'll argue in a bit. As far as season length, the cheerleaders at our school in any case have no off-season. They're a year-round program, which means they practice year-round, which means more practice time.
[2. Warmups: Marching 200 bpm in basics is harder work than any other sport.] Now, this is just not true. While marching 200 bpm basics is tough, and may get you sweating depending on the weather, sprinting ladders up and down a football field is quite a bit tougher. On at least a physical level, my soccer warmups easily surpass the difficulty of marching band warmups.
[3. The show. First song is 162 bpm. Second song is 84 bpm, but probably double timed in the feet. Third song is 158 bpm. Closer is 180 bpm. 11 minutes at such speeds is quite the workout. Add playing, technique and drill to it and it's more mentally challenging than anything else as well.] True, 11 minutes of marching at quick tempos while directing your breath through the heavy instrument you're holding in front of your face is hard-- even painful. But 90 minutes of sprinting direction changes while directing your steps to move a ball that everyone is trying to take from you is-- physically-- much more difficult. As far as the mental aspect, we in band have to analyze: Where we are, where we're going, how many steps we have left to get there and what size they have to be, what tempo we're going, what beat we're on, the music we're playing, the dynamic, articulation, sub-division, and execution of that music, and avoiding rogue colorguard rifles. Not easy, of course. However, it's not unique- the cheerleaders have their drill to memorize, my dance classes have our positions on the floor as well as the moves we're doing, while trying to coordinate balance, facial and body expression, and think about what's coming next. In soccer, we have to focus on what we have to do to move the ball where we want it, which involves analyzing my speed, the ball's speed, the person charging at me's speed and direction, any spin that might be on the ball, bumps on the ground, etc. So thinking is not unique.
[4. WE COMPETE. We go to competitions every saturday and play against OTHER BANDS. We go to STATE FINALS. This SCREAMS sport.] Now this is a hard one to refute... but I'll say that activities like origami folding also have state competitions. Many sports compete more than once or twice a week. Um... that's about all I've got for that one.
Now, that was fun! To just about any of these arguments, a "just sayin'" can be added. As a disclaimer, I have the greatest respect for marching band (it occupies most of my life and thoughts), and totally agree that marching band is a sport, and I support most of your reasoning. Just felt someone should play devil's advocate. And I was bored.
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