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Post by 1frodos1 on Mar 6, 2008 19:15:20 GMT -5
I agree with you, in my band there are two Sl's one is head SL and the other leads the lower band even though they have enough skill to be in Symphonic ( our highest band).My head SL is extreamly nice and tallented but being a senor has become more focused on after HS than on her section.I dont hold it agenst her though.The other issue is she is afraid to yell at anyone which is a problem considering how lazy some of our newer members are.
I would like to be SL but am afriad of myself.I am already the SL of the lower band but i have a hard time not punishing them for their attitudes.Once one of the freshman wouldn't stand up straight and at least try to pay attention so after reminding her several times and her rolling her eyes at me i made her spened two minutes after practice ,standing horns up at attention.30 seconds into this her mother comes down to the feild and curses at me.
I think i would rather have somthing get done and be hated by everyone than get nothing done and still have people hate me
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Post by altoclarinets on Mar 7, 2008 17:55:56 GMT -5
Our SL's used to be voted on by the band, but this year they have to audition- marching AND playing at the SAME time! I think both count. So... try out. The worst thing that could happen is that you don't make it.
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Post by slurpyblurp on Mar 7, 2008 18:11:21 GMT -5
I'm thinking that SL is about 40% experience, 40% leadership ability, and 20% music in MB. In Concert Band, however, it's 50% ability, 30% leadership, 20% experience. That's my personal opinion, and is based upon the SLs I know and my personal ideals.
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Post by slurpyblurp on Mar 7, 2008 18:12:11 GMT -5
Try out, though. It's always worth it, even if it's just for future experience.
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Post by nphsdm on Mar 12, 2008 21:05:47 GMT -5
In Concert Band, however, it's 50% ability, 30% leadership, 20% experience. That's my personal opinion, and is based upon the SLs I know and my personal ideals. Section leaders are picked in concert band? I always assumed the first chair was considered section leader in concert band >.>
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Post by Horn man on Mar 12, 2008 22:19:25 GMT -5
I think in matching band, section leader should be picked purely by leadership because for us the SL doesn't have to be the first chair. But in concert band it should be more playing ability.
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Post by nphsdm on Mar 15, 2008 21:51:28 GMT -5
Why would you need leadership skills in concert band? You're pretty much just saying "Do it like this".
...I just can't see it.
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Post by trumellotonium on Mar 15, 2008 22:43:06 GMT -5
In my concert band, we hardly even do that. Section leaders basically are just responsible for collecting and distributing parts, mutes, etc, and we get to sit first chair. Actually, it's kinda the other way around; we sit first chair (we get there by challenging), and then we "get" to be responsible for the stuff I mentioned. Other than that, we don't really get much opportunity for instruction or demonstration or anything.
My concert band, though, is very different than my marching band, which is not even the same group of people. Because our marching band is during the summer, we have a lot of people from other school districts and not everyone from our own. In marching band, the section leader is responsible for a lot of demonstration, instruction both musically and visually, and whatever else they need to do.
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Post by Sherri the Bari on Mar 16, 2008 20:07:42 GMT -5
Last year, we had a freshman make All-State Band. And he tried out for section leader for experience, as all Freshman who tried out did- because our directors had a policy in place. Well, said Freshman was a Sophmore Section Leader this year, along with a Senior in our section. Well, said Sophomore All-State band boy was quite... power-hungry and hypocritical. I say Leadership Ability.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2008 20:58:18 GMT -5
We actually have a squad and section leaders, usually first and second chair respectively. Leadership, experience and playing ability are all more or less synonymous in my band, although we have a lot of freshmen who are better than their SL's this year or will be. One trombone, I swear, will be at least an All-State alternate next year and he's a fish.
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Post by altoclarinets on Mar 19, 2008 19:30:03 GMT -5
We're probably going to have several cosection leaders and brass, woodwind and percussion captains. Should be interesting. We don't have SL's during concert season.
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Post by 1frodos1 on Mar 19, 2008 19:33:43 GMT -5
SL are useless right now.It should partially be based on wanting to be SL and partly on commitment to the programm.Right now its based on chair so we get some awful leaders
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Post by brassdancer on Mar 21, 2008 10:41:22 GMT -5
The sad thing is, in my band it usually goes to
a) A music major b) really good player c) the SL is usuaully in wind ensemble
It sucks. I mean we've had our share of good SLs and some bad ones, but to be honest, you need to be able to teach AND play ... it doesnt just help to have one..
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Post by eyeswithpride on Mar 22, 2008 0:02:34 GMT -5
I feel that leadership is even more important that playing ability, and here's why.
I actually switched from the flute to the sax, and I was really excited because the section leader was an astounding player. He was by far the best in the band, in marching, concert, and especially jazz. I was really eager to learn from him, but he seemed less than eager to teach me or anybody else. I got the feeling that he thought he was so superior, and everyone else was just an idiot. What really hit home for me is one day when we were having a sectional, he stood up and said to everyone " It's cool that you all want to practice and get good, but to tell you the truth, this band sucks and nothing you do is ever gonna change that, so you might as well not even try." That drove me insane, and it was all I could do to keep my mouth shut. I couldn't believe someone like this could be considered a leader. So for me, I would take a good leader over a good player any day.
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Post by bariclaribob on Apr 16, 2008 16:30:36 GMT -5
I have recently found out that sometimes sl isn't determined by either playing ability or leadership. Sometimes, it's just seniority, whether the most senior member of your section ever comes to rehearsal, cares about band, works hard, shows up on time, has a good attitude, is respected (if not liked) by all the section, is any good at their instrument... sometimes, it's just the person the bd chose b/c their old. That's that.
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