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Post by bandgeek101 on Oct 30, 2008 1:16:19 GMT -5
ok so ther's this section in our band (cough trumpets) that never show up for rehearsal, refuse to cooperate, and are otherwise bringing down the band. Our BD has a demerit system that would have the whole section kicked out of band, but he knows we need trumpets. What do you do about people like this? (they sometime flet-out refuse to do punishment like push-ups and other things they are suposed to do)
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crenee25
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Post by crenee25 on Feb 7, 2009 16:34:03 GMT -5
Wow...that really sucks.
Our band has never had a whole section be that bad.
What our BD does is not let the people who misbehave perform and pretty much pushes them all the time. Practically denies them any rights and seperates them from the rest of the band.
I guess you could always send the worst of the group to punishment...
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Post by altoclarinet123 on Apr 10, 2009 20:23:58 GMT -5
I guess you could have people switch to trumpet - to set an example and be there if people need to be kicked out. Or kick out the worst one to set an example for the rest and maybe they were influencing the rest of the section.
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hansel2011
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Post by hansel2011 on Apr 12, 2009 11:50:54 GMT -5
We never had an entire section. We just have a bunch of people in different sections. But just set up a good example and try your hardest. Yes, those you can not loose an entire section but those people can not continue to bring down your entire section. Just try to do your best.
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Post by bandgeek101 on Apr 12, 2009 22:51:52 GMT -5
I like altoclarinet123's idea
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Post by 1frodos1 on Apr 27, 2009 0:18:37 GMT -5
Long story short.We have a kid no one likes.he talks in band, he's an overall pain in the behind. I'm serious, he had to stay with his mom during a band trip because no one wanted him in their group,and his mom had to come for him to be aloud to go.I tried yelling,i tried being nice for a month to see if he would react better.At the end of the month i wrote out my feelings and most of the band ended up seeing it.Now i have a note that while true and actually trying to help ,would cause a either myself getting punched (he has left bruises before,and that was when he was joking) or him becoming extremely depressed.
I am going to have to face some unpleasantness when this all blows up (it always blows up)and not looking forward to it.I had'nt been thinking of his emotional immaturity when i was writing ( he dosent recognize the difference between who he is as a person and his behaviors)
This is all a cautionary story.Consider the emotional issues a person might have before dealing with them, my method is going to get me in trouble.Band may be these peoples lifelines.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2009 8:59:16 GMT -5
Maybe kick the worst one out, or suspend him, and see if that shuts up the rest of them. Frodos is right, even the problem children may like band. It could well be that they all have individual problems that need to be worked out, domineering parents or whatever else. If that is the case, 1frodos1's advice is especially necessary. I have looked like a fool for chewing out people whose parents wouldn't /let/ them go to rehearsal (God only know why).
I think if you ask them why they don't show up (where were you last night?), you at least have a starting point and you aren't immediately making it their fault.
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Post by bandgeek101 on Apr 30, 2009 22:56:28 GMT -5
Haha our BD actually did that and it worked-all the others shut up.
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