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Post by jazztastic on Apr 19, 2009 1:37:56 GMT -5
I was looking at a poster on my band room's wall yesterday and noticed a "gypsy scale." Basically, it's like a harmonic minor with a lowered 2nd and raised 3rd: Ex. C, Db, E, F, G, Ab, B, C
I played it and thought it sounded pretty cool. What do you guys think?
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Post by stickshifty on Apr 20, 2009 23:59:49 GMT -5
I think it's more commonly known as a Phrygian scale.
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Post by jazztastic on Apr 21, 2009 16:51:42 GMT -5
Ahh! It's been the longest time since I've studied modes... like a year? I had a teacher last year who taught them to us but then in the end she found out she taught them wrong... Thanks stickshifty
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Post by altoclarinets on Apr 27, 2009 20:22:28 GMT -5
It certainly sounds gypsy. Phrygian is like a flamenco dance. But I wouldn't reject the poss of it being Phrygian.
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Post by stickshifty on Apr 28, 2009 1:06:25 GMT -5
Ahhh shhhhhht.. had I posted the whole quote, I probably would have caught this sooner. But yeah, I was wrong. The Phrygian dominant scale is constructed by raising the third of the Phrygian mode and is the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale, the fifth being the dominant. It has the word "dominant" in its name because like the dominant seventh chord it has a major 3rd note and a flattened 7th note. It is often known as a Spanish Phrygian scale or Spanish gypsy scale, and is commonly used in flamenco music. It is also known as Ahava Rabboh or Freygish when used in Hebrew prayers and Klezmer music (earning it the additional title of the Jewish scale), or as the Hijaz maqam when used in Turkish or Arabic music. Often, it has found application in modern progressive rock/metal, having been utilized notably by the band Dream Theater, and by Joe Satriani, who cites the Phrygian dominant as his favorite scale, along with Fred Ardiel, formerly a guitar teacher in the Capilano University Jazz Studies program. The scale is unusual as the interval between the second and third degrees is an augmented second - giving it a "patchy" quality, like its sister, the harmonic minor scale. The sequence of steps comprising the Phrygian dominant scale is half – augmented – half – whole – half – whole – whole When related to the scale degrees of the major scale, it reads like so: 1 - b2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - b6 - b7 - 1 Beginning on C, the scale is as follows: C - Db - E - F - G - Ab - Bb - C So I was off by a half-step. My apologies.
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Post by trumellotonium on Apr 28, 2009 21:09:41 GMT -5
so is the poster wrong, is it another variant of the phrygian scale, or is it something else entirely? The quote seems consistent enough with calling it a gypsy scale and all...
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Post by the_sousabone on Apr 29, 2009 8:36:40 GMT -5
It's a gypsy scale. I have a book of scales and there's a bunch of gypsy scales in it. If I can find that book I'll report back here. But there is a gypsy scale.
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