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Post by baritonechick123 on Nov 3, 2008 22:49:11 GMT -5
i found an almost new blessings marching baritone on craigslist for 400!! it's great you should look there. Also, regional tryouts are coming up, any advice on practicing and stuff?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2008 13:26:51 GMT -5
Wow, lucky. I don't live in an area with its own craigslist...I'd be stuck with either Denver or ABQ methinks.
Can someone explain to me the nature of high c# on a three-valved baritone? I've seen three different fingerings, and I'm not sure where it lies. Chromatically, it's above a high C (first ledger line), first valve, which means it's second valve, but I've also seen two-three. Help?
Also, has anyone played the piece "Celtic Carol" by Robert W. Smith. It's a beautiful Greensleeves arrangement, but it hits a high G (third ledger line) a note to which I am philosophically opposed. When we sightread it the first time, my freshman and I finished the song seriously lightheaded and completely exhilarated.
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Post by brassdancer on Nov 20, 2008 16:42:39 GMT -5
Haha, I've played Celtic Carol. It's a fun one. And I hear ya on the G's ... that was my note of anguish in high school. I've never played on a three valve baritone, aside from marching band so I can't really help you there. The standard fingering is 2, i'm pretty sure thats what I've always used. I've never seen anyone use 2+3, I don't even know if that would work, lol. But I've never tried it so I don't know, but the standard fingering is 2, which is also the same fingering as Db.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 18:27:39 GMT -5
We finally got through the first bit with the eighth note triplets intact today, and my uberjock third chair is actually going to take it home. And then the trombone (who's been a real jerk to me about baritone for some reason) came over while I was warming up and said that when I played this one piece, I played it perfectly and that the other baritones must be screwing it up, when usually I get the blame for everything we do wrong. Yay.
It's an odd feeling to be one of the better sections in the band. It used to be that we would play through, hit a baritone soli and then the BD would cut us off and say "okay, baritones...", but now it's "good job, baritones". We also spend a lot of rehearsal time cutting up or making fun of the flutes because he has to stop them every other measure. Our BD admitted (and I mean admitted) to our golden boy trumpet that graduated last year that the low brass sounds really good this year. I think we are section of the year quality, since the clarinets, who he said were big candidates last year, kind of suck now and the trumpets fell apart without the aforementioned golden boy.
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Post by brassdancer on Nov 20, 2008 19:08:01 GMT -5
Welcome to euphonium land. I don't think I've ever been in a section that was bad in all the ensembles I've been in. It's kind of fun, and you get away with so much! I will have to make sure and keep an eye on my euph section when I teach though, since I know all the tom follary that goes on back there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 19:48:31 GMT -5
Considering I WAS the baritone section last year up until my aforementioned third chair switched and learned baritone on the fly, I guess it stands to reason we would be better than last year.
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Post by Euphoniums PWN on Nov 20, 2008 22:07:23 GMT -5
Contrary to your experiences, I've never been in an exceptionally GOOD euphonium section outside of honor band. There's always one player who desperately needs help, or sounds like they've got a large lapdog stuffed in their bell. All my years we've had 3 or more baritones, so I don't know what it's like to be alone (although I'd like to try it). District honor band was a treat though. 5 exceptionally good euphonium players completely dominated the entire horn section (around ten if i'm not mistaken). As far as getting away with stuff, my third chair texts all the time and last year, another player read manga the whole time. It's funny when they get caught though.
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Post by brassdancer on Nov 20, 2008 22:30:41 GMT -5
Being the lone euph is always fun. It's just a big ol' solo. Though, you always need to be on, none of the resting on other players kinda stuff. It really forced me to practice and make sure I was ready, and I guess I needed that when I first started out. It was nice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2008 23:20:32 GMT -5
I was never very good as the lone bari so I didn't much like it. Now that I've improved (and I have, somehow), being pretty good and having someone who's almost as good as me as my second chair is fun. He keeps me on my toes, and I keep him in his place.
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Post by the_sousabone on Nov 27, 2008 3:01:20 GMT -5
really late post. But G above the staff can be played 1+2. That's how I play it, but I'm not a full time euphonium player
This opens up debate.....
Euphoium player Euphonist Euphoniumist
what is it?
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Post by brassdancer on Nov 27, 2008 23:37:41 GMT -5
I say euphist and euphonium player. Though people usually just refer to me as "Euph Chick".
High G's can also be played with 3rd valve. Thats usually only used in certain situations, where the G is not as in tune as it should be with 1+2.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2008 18:02:46 GMT -5
I just say euphonium or euphonium player. Sometimes baritoboner, but that works better with people who double baritone and trombone.
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Post by mike on Dec 26, 2008 23:53:36 GMT -5
Yargh.. thanks to my has-to-much-faith-in-me director(s), I started out on trombone back in seventh grade. In my freshman year I and five others (from various sections) got bumped up to play at the high school marching band - where I learned baritone, marching and concert (technically concert euph.. anyway). Last year I and two others were asked (read: conscripted) to be the "euphonium" section in marching band. Since then it's become my passion and my baby seriously. Don't f*ck with my horn. So yeah. Euphs rock - and roll. Don't take that literally though. So... does that make me a eubaritoboner? xD EDIT: If you're wondering (which I doubt, but I'll explain anyway), my plan is to close out my senior year the way I've been going - marching euphonium, off-season trombone. Then do the same at our local junior college (and hopefully full..masters...whatever it's called these days), though marching regular baritone in whichever Core I get into. So, hopefully, my six years or so of straight-up extra forty-percent O2 exertion should help my volume (more) where the volume is what matters. YEAH!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2009 14:38:41 GMT -5
Baritonium works better for playing both baritone and euphonium. I think the difference is too small for that really to count as doubling up instruments, but it depends on what kind of baritone and what kind of euphonium you're playing. Maybe tromtonium.
Since we're on the subject of majors, I want to do a major in journalism or something and then a minor in euphonium performance. I can play a trombone, but I kind of suck at it, but I would like to be able to do jazz on a bass trombone in college (scheduling precludes me from taking jazz in high school, because it's the same period as journalism, which is what I want to do a career in). Some time before I leave high school I'd also like to work on a Bb mello, tuba and a trumpet, but we will see.
Anyone know if there is a use for treble-clef euphonium beyond high school? I know that it's much the same as trumpet, which is useful, but as for the actual music, I don't know that I've ever heard of a college-level player doing euphonium in treble clef.
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Post by mike on Jan 1, 2009 17:32:07 GMT -5
Maybe if a director/orchestrator wants that kind of sound, but I doubt it.
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